Explicit 
Chris and Jay experiment with a new format: 2 lapel mics in the backyard while running 4 dogs around. Jay asks a question from the excellent 80,000 hours podcast: Andreas Mogensen on whether effective altruism is just for consequentialists. (That link jumps to time mark 1h 21m in that podcast episode.)
When is it better to “let” one person die than to inconvenience thousands, millions, billions, trillions of people?
backyard1.mp3 (52m 26MB)
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Musical intro by Skytrekg! Click to follow him on Twitch! An amazing traditional (oil, guache, etc) artist, guitarist, and singer.